Tuesday, March 25, 2008

Baby Steps (Mine)

I'm taking baby steps with the meat and faith issue I recently wrote about. I've done some Google research into Illinois farms that raise and sell meat in a CSA style. And I've been looking into the countless Halal sellers that are within a mile of my house. I knew living in a diverse neighborhood would come in handy.

And this led me to a delightful experience. After my online search I chose a Muslim grocer which I thought might be my best bet, and off we went. Asher and I entered the small Indo-Pak store and went straight to the smiling couple behind the counter. The woman oooh'd and ahhh'd over Asher as I bravely summoned my courage and asked "Is the meat in this store Halal? Could you explain what that means?"

The husband graciously gave me a tutorial on meat that is Halal which, including my follow up questions and considering the language barrier, took a bit of time. They asked me "is your husband Muslim?" I was so obviously a young white American Christian with a young white American child that I worried they would feel I was not being honest in some way, walking into their store and asking for a lesson in their food customs. So I explained that I was a Christian, but that I wanted to honor God in the food that I ate and was hoping to learn from them.

I loved this couple. I wish I could have them over to my house. They were grandparent-types, friendly and hospitable. They answered my questions and offered Asher some hard candy. After I turned it down the man walked away, perused his aisles, and came back with an entire package of cookies (energy biscuits from India!!) to offer. Asher and I happily accepted, but the gentleman refused my attempts to pay. Apparently, I was given a gift in exchange for taking their time, friendliness, and tutelage. I offered; they refused; I offered; they refused. I've never gotten the knack for how long this exchange is supposed to go on, or who is supposed to be the first to back down. I gave in and gave them hearty thanks.

As we turned to go, I felt discontented about having such a great experience, a package of cookies, and having given nothing in return. Half way out the door the obvious answer struck me - I couldn't pay for the cookies, but I could buy something else. Walking down the three short aisles I selected a box of green tea and a can of chickpeas. This gave me an opportunity to chat more with the couple - about my trips to India, about her chicken briani, about my interest in not only my Christian faith, but Islam and others as well. The woman nodded, telling me that her father had read the Qu'ran, the Bible, and the Hindu scriptures. We commented on the peace that comes when different peoples understand each other. We smiled. Asher chomped on his cookies. I promised to be back with a meat order soon.
I'm not certain that eating Halal is the answer to my problem, but its a start for now - a baby step. Either way, this step was a blessing to me. I live in the suburbs, not the city, not the country. I don't associate a personality with my grocery store or my bank or my gas station. But I wish I did. This was a taste not only of India but of rich, full, real life - life with community.

22 comments:

thailandchani said...

Very interesting.. and that is the same experience I've had with people of different cultures. It was interesting though that you felt the need to buy something from them because they gave you cookies. Southeast Asian culture - and Middle Eastern as well - simply doesn't require that kind of direct reciprocity. Giving and sharing is natural for them.

All of that to say, you don't have to barter. Most cultures enjoy giving and they don't think about getting.

:)

I think if your gut is leading you in the direction of honoring God by the way you eat, that is where you are being led - and honoring it is important.

Gwen said...

I find your desire to eat Halal meat, or the equivalent (I'm sure I missed the discussion on the suitability of kosher food), really interesting. I'm curious to see how this plays out in your life. And I mean curious in an open and eager way.

monica said...

you lived in India? I'm a newbie to your blog, so I didn't know that. have you blogged about it?

monica - who lived in SE Asia for awhile

Kristi said...

way to go! If you buy there, you COULD associate a personality with your grocery store. I love it when you can buy food at a place where people recognize you!! (OK, that doesn't solve the meat problem, but it is one small step in the chain. :)

Terri said...

I'm interested in your journey in this area. I've felt similarly myself but haven't taken even as many steps as you have. I need to do more research on the matter to find what's available in my area which isn't as diverse as yours. I've been reading The Omnivore's Dilemma. It has been quite eye opening for me and has really solidified my opinion about industrial farms. I'm definitely interested in reading more about your choices and how you came to your conclusions. Maybe it will help me take a few baby steps of my own.

kedae said...

FYI-HumaneCalifornia.org for the Prevention of Farm Animal Cruelty Act.

Singing Bear said...

This is fascinating. The cruelty done to animals by us humans is an utter conundrum for someone on the spiritual path. In 1982 I decided to become vegetarian, purely on ethical grounds. Since then, I have gone through some periods when I've sold out my ethical stance for convenience e.g. my first wife didn't get it...maybe that's why we're no longer together! Funnily enough, she got into Kosher practices (being Jewish and rediscovering her rooots). Personally, I think there is no excuse for cruelty to animals but I understand the need for people in certain societies to hunt and eat them. I became a vegetarian again when my first wife and I split up and felt I'd come home again. Since then, it's not always been easy and having young children, who I will not force to be vegetarian, makes life complicated. One of my young kids won't eat meat, of her own choice, but the other will, when the mood takes her. She also suffers from food allergies so I'm glad when she is able to eat anything that'll keep her healthy! She's also a bit 'faddy' with food and you have top be very careful with girls, I think. Consequently, because both my younger kids will eat fish both myself and Mrs. Bear have decided to eat fish again. I feel a bit guilty about this but I feel I can only do my best and I put my kids first. In an ideal world, I'd be vegan but I'm way off that path at the moment.

In all honesty, I don't feel that Halal or Kosher meat is that much better than meat slaughtered in the normal way. I suppose if you can sure animals have been raised humanely, then that's not so bad but my understanding of Halal or Kosher practices does not guarantee this. Just my own opinion of course. I have never bought the idea that God gave humans the animal kingdom for us to (ab)use as we will.

MsLittlePea said...

What a great experience.

BTW I loved those Easter pix--so cute.

wheelsonthebus said...

Halal and Kosher DO guarantee a more ethical treatment -- that's the whole point.

You gave them respect for their religion and the principles that it advances. What more could you give them?

Erin said...

What a great story of cross-cultural interaction! It sounded like a blessing for them too, to have someone talk to them.
My boss just had a baby boy and named him Asher :)

Magpie Girl said...

Thanks for this wonderful post. I'm living in a new city and I'm yearning to connect with Muslim women. I never thought of the simple step of shoping in one of the small grocers that dots my new neighborhood. I don't know why, but I'm so afraid my questions will offer offense. Where did I get that? From the overly pc-ness of my native land? Hmmm?

I'm featuring this post in my BlogHer.Com Religion and Spirituality editorial on Monday. Thanks for the inspiration!

Rachelle

p.s. have you read Jen Lemen's post on a similar experience? I think you would resonate with it:
http://jenlemen.com/blog/?p=357. I'll link her back to you as well.

Singing Bear said...

wheelson the bus: how does Halal or Kosher guarentee more ethical treatment? The animals are still slaughtered painfully and are in great fear. Please correct me if you think I'm wrong but the only thing necessary for meat to be Kosher or Halal is the method of slaughter and maybe a blessing of the process by a rabbi or imam. In the area where I used to live there were complaints about goats being slaughtered in back gardens and blood being swept down the drains. How ethical is that? Please don't think I'm on an anti Muslim or Jewish trip, it's the animals I care about.

Catherine said...

Dear Singing Bear and WheelsontheBus,

These are great comments and questions - in fact, I think I'll write a seperate post about them in about a week. For now, I'll agree that some Kosher/Halal "processers" do not follow the spirit of the law, but only the letter of the law. But I'll also agree that many follow the spirit, and search for ways to give animals a humane and compassionate life as well as death. It is because I was trying to find out the source of the grocer's Halal supply that our conversation was long; and it is because I'm having trouble getting to the bottom of it that I'm not sure this is the answer for me. But, it is a baby step.

Keep talking - I'm learning from you all!

Catherine said...

Monica - I don't know that I have blogged about it. What a great idea...

Catherine said...

Erin - cool! The name Asher seems to keep popping up...

Catherine said...

Magpie - cool, thanks! Could you send me the link? I'll have limited internet access in the coming week and don't want to miss it. :)

Singing Bear said...

Catherine: I admire your search for answers. Hope all our opinions, one way or the other, help you.

Catherine said...

Chani - it wasn't so much that I felt the need as it was I really really wanted to. Only the kind of "have to" they felt in the first place. And it took me a moment for the culturally obvious solution to plunk down into place in my brain. Thanks. :)

Catherine said...

Singing Bear - they do, for sure! I love dialogging - so much can be learned. Its such a blessing to me that I can learn outloud, and be checked and balanced by you all.

painted maypole said...

you are going to learn and grow so much. it's really exciting.

Robert Salaam said...

This was a great post! Al-humdulillah! I just wanted to add that I thought it was hilarious when you were talking about the cookies. Even as a Muslim and knowing what to expect, my American-ness always kicks in and I have a hard time accepting something for nothing. My Pakistani friends always have to nudge me to remind me to just take it and say Shookran or something.

I wish I could blog so personable, you have a gift, keep it up :)

As Salaam Alaikum

Linda said...

Halal meat is familar to me. We lived in the Middle East and that's all we got. Not sure about how it was all processed, but my kids sure like the Halal meatballs there. The Arabs are all about hospitality. We had some that after one meeting invited us to vacation homes in various places in the world and go to their house for dinner and you will find a spread like you probably would at a wedding...enough to feed an army.